Tommy Tuberville

Two Cents & Sense: Thoughts on UC vs BYU (“Go To Hell, Get A Job” Edition)



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I’m running out of things to say, so I’ll keep this short and sweet.

The Bearcats got absolutely choked out by BYU yesterday, and now own a losing record in November for the first time since 2010 and the second time since 2005. Not only that, but based on what I’ve seen from this Bearcats team and what I’ve seen from the teams left on the schedule, I don’t see us winning another game. Left on the docket is a road game against a solid UCF team, a home finale (that could be an attendance catastrophe) against a pretty good Memphis team, and a trip to Tulsa to face a 7–2 Golden Hurricane team that will be trying to close the year at home with a win for their seniors.

I pray I’m wrong, but I don’t have enough evidence to call this a bowl team.


  • Another respectable defensive performance. Despite BYU’s pedestrian record, they’re a pretty good team. The Bearcats held them to 20 points on 337 yards. QB Taysom Hill went 15-for-25 for 130 yards, no touchdowns, and an interception. When you’re looking for any positive, that’s good enough. I feel like this defense as a whole has outplayed themselves. We should probably be worse than we’ve been.
  • Zach Edwards got his interception, joining the INT party the defense has had this season. In what has to have been an excruciang junior and senior year for Edwards, I’m happy for him each time he makes a play.
  • Tion Green had a nice outing. Because UC trailed for most of the afternoon, he only got 16 carries, but he took those 82 yards for 5.1 yards per carry. He also had five catches for 22 yards.
  • Devin Gray is still really good. Man, I love this kid. He had seven catches for 105 yards. If you can round up a couple yards in a few games, that’s his fifth 100-yard outing in his first nine games at the FBS level. Not many guys do that.


  • 90% of what happened yesterday. Yeah:

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The national media is finally noticing what’s happening in Cincinnati.

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I think I speak for everyone when I say that I just want this season to be over, one way or another. The Bearcats are 11–11 since the start of last year, and I think we’re all over it. I’ll be at Nippert to see the Bearcats play Memphis in two weeks, but that’s more out of love and loyalty than excitement. Get me to December so we can wipe the slate clean.

Go Bearcats. Beat UCF.

Tuberville’s Contract Extension Details Are Out, Not Much Has Changed



After some FOIA requests by local media, UC has coughed up contract details on the extension Tommy Tuberville agreed to in April and signed on October 1, presumably just hours before the ‘Cats got their skulls smashed by USF at Nippert. I won’t debate the merits of this extension, because it makes very little sense and only makes me angry. Instead, let’s look at how we can get out of it:

Tuberville’s old contract included a buyout provision that sat at $1 million until February 1, at which point it would’ve dropped to $550,000. The new contract’s buyout is $2.4 million until December 6. On December 7, it drops to $1.5 million.


He’s (Still) Not Getting Fired Before December

Don’t let the $2.4 million worry you. It sounds like a lot of money, but it’s absolutely meaningless. That was Tuberville’s assurance that he wouldn’t get fired during this season. Yes, it means he won’t be fired before the season is over. However, he wouldn’t have been fired anyway. Coaching changes rarely happen mid-season in college, and basically never happen at Cincinnati. Anyone expecting to hear news of a coaching move this week was fooling themselves.

Here’s What’s New

The big change here is this: Under his old contract, Tuberville’s buyout following the season was $1 million. Under the new contract, it’s $1.5 million.

I know the $550,000 number is appetizing, but that’s kind of another meaningless number. UC never would’ve made it that far. It didn’t drop to that number until February 1, and you can’t fire your coach and start the hiring process in February. That’s too late.

The Bad News

UC has to pay $1.5 million to fire Tuberville in December instead of $1 million.

The Good News

Moving the date in which the buyout drops from February 1 all the way up to December 7 is an intentional move on UC’s part. Again, I don’t understand why this extension was offered in the first place, but the decrease in buyout money in December was written with a firing in mind.

Honestly, I almost like the new extension details because they incentivize a coaching change immediately following the season, which is the most likely time to make a move anyways. Rather than entering this offseason and wondering if UC will make a quick move (and fire Tubs in December) or wait until February (and save $450k), now they have every incentive to drop the ax quickly. If Tuberville doesn’t get fired this December, he isn’t going anywhere until the end of the 2017 season. The new deal is very straightforward in that regard. We now have some clarity.

The Bottom Line

Old contract or new, the most likely time of a firing has always been December. What would’ve cost UC $1 million will now cost them $1.5 million. That’s their fault, and they’ll have to deal with shelling out that extra cash. However, the new contract gives us a D-Day. Circle December 7, 2016 on your calendar. The UC athletic department has every reason to drop Tubs and throw themselves into the 2016 coaching carousel with the rest of the college football world, and now we have a hard and fast date to watch.

UPDATE: Since I’ve seen people saying both, I should clarify that I’m not sure if “D-Day” is December 7 or December 8. The Vogel tweet says “BEFORE December 7” not “December 7 or before.” It sounds like the buyout drops starting on December 7. I haven’t seen the contract to know what the exact wording is, but it’s my impression that the first day UC can afford to fire Tuberville is December 7. I may be wrong, in which case it’s December 8.

Not that it really matters.